The Wings look to rebound from their OT loss to the Maple Leafs yesterday as they host the Anaheim Ducks today.
Detroit’s lineup is incomplete with Dan Cleary out until the playoffs but the Ducks’ lineup is finally togther with the team’s cap-skirting Teemu Selanne’s retirement over.
Osgood gets the start for the Red Wings, Giguere goes for Anaheim.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 6:52 AM
Schneider knocks Holmstrom down in the crease with Homer chasing the puck and an open net. No call. Gonna be one of those games.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 8:37 AM
Please, Lord, don’t let Bertuzzi or Schnieder score.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 8:45 AM
Please, Lord, don’t let Bertuzzi or Schnieder score.
If we’re asking the lord for things, go bigger, go for none of them to score and they all suffer minor injuries that will keep them out until next October.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 8:50 AM
Ducks are the most penalized team in the league and yet it’s Zetterberg going off first for a weak, weak hook.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 8:53 AM
Any word yet on how long we’re without Cleary???
skyguy52February 10, 2008 8:54 AM
Nick Lidstrom, power play goal! Suck on that, Scott Niedermayer.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 8:56 AM
Any word yet on how long we’re without Cleary???
Eight weeks.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 8:56 AM
A blast by Lidstrom with lots of Wings and sticks going to the net.
Love it.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 8:57 AM
Any word yet on how long we’re without Cleary???
Eight weeks.
Yikes. And a broken jaw of all things. That must have hurt too. Never had one, but he must have had some pain killers.
Heard Babcock mention, he expects someone to step up & fill the void.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 8:59 AM
f*cking hell.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:01 AM
Carter.. They all count, but I must say that was a piece-o-crap.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:01 AM
Cleary having such a good year … and he’s probably out for the remaining regular season.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:03 AM
Please, Lord, don’t let Bertuzzi or Schnieder score.
If we’re asking the lord for things, go bigger, go for none of them to score and they all suffer minor injuries that will keep them out until next October.
(Except for Schneider, he’s ok On my watch…)
Oh well. I would just like to thank the lord this isn’t a sorry excuse for a game like yesterday! >:| That was horrid. And they’re not getting beaten, yay!
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:09 AM
Please, Lord, don’t let Bertuzzi or Schnieder score.
If we’re asking the lord for things, go bigger, go for none of them to score and they all suffer minor injuries that will keep them out until next October.
(Except for Schneider, he’s ok On my watch…)
Oh well. I would just like to thank the lord this isn’t a sorry excuse for a game like yesterday! >:| That was horrid. And they’re not getting beaten, yay!
OK, sorry, How could I forget you are a Schneider fan. Well, how about if he scores, but its called back because it wasn’t legal..?? haha
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:15 AM
So McGueire is praising the Ducks being physical by using the example of Giguere knocking down Franzen in front of the net. Which is a penalty that went uncalled. Physical or lucky? No one would be praising them if the refs would call it.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:33 AM
Hudler due to for a goal or point.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:36 AM
Late cross-check by Pronger, not called. Punch by Kunitz not called. Bullsh*t.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:37 AM
Can we have that called back??
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:40 AM
And the Ducks score on what should have been a Detroit power play. f*ck you, refs.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:40 AM
OK, sorry, How could I forget you are a Schneider fan. Well, how about if he scores, but its called back because it wasn’t legal..?? haha
In your faces. Now let’s have Dr. Fil and Pavel Datsyuk score & call it even!
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:41 AM
The Ducks are still very happy with the officials? No sh*t, McGuire! f*ck you, refs.
Send Downey out to cross-check as many people as possible in the jaw. Start with Pronger and Giguere.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:43 AM
The Ducks are still very happy with the officials? No sh*t, McGuire! f*ck you, refs.
Send Downey out to cross-check as many people as possible in the jaw. Start with Pronger and Giguere.
I like this idea! They’ve gotten away with some stuff, as usual. It’s stupid. How can the reffs be so blind?
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:45 AM
I like this idea! They’ve gotten away with some stuff, as usual. It’s stupid. How can the reffs be so blind?
They’re not blind, they saw Samuelsson. They *chose* not to call Kunitz. Because physical is expected from Anaheim but how dare those weak Swedes in Detroit try it.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:47 AM
DUCKS seem to be handling the WINGS with ease.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:48 AM
I have to say, that had to have been one of the worst no-calls I’ve seen in a long time… It’s not often you hear NBC announcers (who lately seem to be anti-redwings, even though they’re “neutral”) call out the refs on a no-call that hurt the redwings.
Wow.
drwmike33February 10, 2008 9:48 AM
Getzlaf throws a shot at Drake after the hit on Kunitz ’cause Kunitz is too much of a bitch to take care of himself.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:50 AM
Ooh! I remember what I had to say now.
Did anyone catch that Mike Babcock said it was ‘at least it’s entertaining’ when they interviewed him earlier? Maybe he gave them some smelling salts before the game started.
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:50 AM
Meech’s stick held by Rob Niedermayer. No call.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:50 AM
You’re kidding me.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:52 AM
You’re kidding me.
My thought also. D: Wow
That shouldn’t have happened.
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:53 AM
Downey shouldn’t be going with their pornstached fighter, he should have gone after one of their stars.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:54 AM
WINGS standing still on that one. Especially Rafalski. Ducks rushing the net almost untouched.
Draper with a scoring opportunity just prior, shoots wide. When is Draper going to learn how to put his shots on net?
This game is getting away from the WINGS and quickly.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:55 AM
Milbury praises the Ducks for being able to get away with so much. Again, if the refs are doing their jobs, that’s nothing to praise.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:57 AM
Ooh! I remember what I had to say now.
Did anyone catch that Mike Babcock said it was ‘at least it’s entertaining’ when they interviewed him earlier? Maybe he gave them some smelling salts before the game started.
Didn’t hear that. In what context was Babs talking? Was he referring to the REFS’ non-calls ??
skyguy52February 10, 2008 9:57 AM
Way to draw the call, Zata.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 9:58 AM
Downey shouldn’t be going with their pornstached fighter, he should have gone after one of their stars.
Hmmm, that brings the names to my head of Pronger and Cleary Anyone else remember that fun time?
Yay! Power play!
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:58 AM
Didn’t hear that. In what context was Babs talking? Was he referring to the REFS’ non-calls ??
No, the fast pace of it, I think. If I remember right
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 9:59 AM
End of 2:
Shots on Goal:
Wings 23 ——————– Ducks 16
Score:
Ducks 3 ——————— Wings 1
PHISSS pooor
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:03 AM
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:14 AM
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
So that eight game winning streak was done even with bad goaltending?
Nah, last couple games haven’t been great but no reason to worry.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 10:17 AM
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
The last couple games hasn’t been as great as they have been all season, I’ll give you that. But it’s one of those “This too shall pass” situations.
The announcers were just talking about how we need to figure out our goaltending situation because niether is good enough.
I say look at the numbers and shut up. What other team can say that they have both goalies with the best GAA in the league 1,2?
There’s not much of a base for that argument. Understandably, sometime stats lie, but they can’t be THAT far away from the truth.
drwmike33February 10, 2008 10:21 AM
Not sure I agree with the goalie interference call. I’d hate to see it the other way. That said, Randy Carlyle can f*ck himself if he wants to complain about it.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 10:24 AM
Way to go Franzen!
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 10:27 AM
Nice pass by Hudler to Franzen who finishes!
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:28 AM
Yay! Franzen’s keeping us in the game!!
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 10:28 AM
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
The last couple games hasn’t been as great as they have been all season, I’ll give you that. But it’s one of those “This too shall pass” situations.
The announcers were just talking about how we need to figure out our goaltending situation because niether is good enough.
I say look at the numbers and shut up. What other team can say that they have both goalies with the best GAA in the league 1,2?
There’s not much of a base for that argument. Understandably, sometime stats lie, but they can’t be THAT far away from the truth.
I say alot of the credit for the low GAA is the puck possession style of of the WINGS offense.
I’m not impressed yet with either goalie. I’ve never been a big fan of Ozzie. I’ve felt alot of his stats are due to the guys he has up front.
Sorry to disagree, but I’m just not able to give the WINGS goalies credit.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:32 AM
Giguere Just kept the score from being tied.
He seems to have his best games against the WINGS.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:36 AM
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
So that eight game winning streak was done even with bad goaltending?
Nah, last couple games haven’t been great but no reason to worry.
I say it had less to do with the net minding than the puck possession, and checking lines up front.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:41 AM
I just noticed they haven’t said much about Pronger today. Let’s keep it that way. Too bad Gigeure and his barely legal pads keep making saves.
(These commentators are annoying.)
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 10:45 AM
I say it had less to do with the net minding than the puck possession, and checking lines up front.
In that win streak there were two shutouts and two games where the Wings held their opponents to a single goal. What more do you want from the goalies?
Similarly, the Wings’ puck-possession style can make their goalies’ stats look worse. You allow one goal, you get a good GAA, but if it’s only on a handful of shots your save percentage is crap.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 10:47 AM
I just noticed they haven’t said much about Pronger today. Let’s keep it that way. Too bad Gigeure and his barely legal pads keep making saves.
(These commentators are annoying.)
You’re right. I’m thinking Giguere has made the difference. He’s a monster in net, and then add to that all the padding he uses for God’s sake.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:48 AM
You are f*cking kidding me.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 10:52 AM
Lidstrom has earned a place on the good players list
I never saw him as spectacular last year, maybe I was blind. But he’s just playing better lately.
edit;; They….called it off, huh? That’s fcking great. How stupid.
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 10:52 AM
I say it had less to do with the net minding than the puck possession, and checking lines up front.
In that win streak there were two shutouts and two games where the Wings held their opponents to a single goal. What more do you want from the goalies?
Similarly, the Wings’ puck-possession style can make their goalies’ stats look worse. You allow one goal, you get a good GAA, but if it’s only on a handful of shots your save percentage is crap.
True there were a few low scoring games in that streak. The WINGS also had to come back from deficits late in games to get the W. I’m still not convinced that the net minding has been the difference.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 10:53 AM
Anyone else see Pronger (and what it seemed like he was trying to do) ripping off Zetterbug’s face? It look like he was strangling him. x] RIDICULOUS. Simply ridiculous.
I say we all go against the referees, they obviously are biased against some teams.
Edit;; We should have a 100 reasons to hate the Anaheim Ducks thread I can think of a big handful right now.
Edit 2;; More ideas! Better yet, we get Gigeure mad at Schneider and Schneider can throw a drink at him (like the whole Roy thing) and get them both traded! Genius!
Mathieu_Datsyuk132351February 10, 2008 10:56 AM
Anyone else see Pronger (and what it seemed like he was trying to do) ripping off Zetterbug’s face? It look like he was strangling him. x] RIDICULOUS. Simply ridiculous.
I say we all go against the referees, they obviously are biased against some teams.
Edit;; We should have a 100 reasons to hate the Anaheim Ducks thread I can think of a big handful right now.
This game was just plain ridiculous. I thought the no call on Kunitz and the call on Samuelsson was one of the worst calls I’d seen in a long time……I stand corrected. Giguere did a good job “bumping” (if you could even call it that) Holmstrom.
I feel kind of sick to my stomach…. it reminded me of last year’s playoffs.
drwmike33February 10, 2008 11:13 AM
Anyone else see Pronger (and what it seemed like he was trying to do) ripping off Zetterbug’s face? It look like he was strangling him. x] RIDICULOUS. Simply ridiculous.
I say we all go against the referees, they obviously are biased against some teams.
Edit;; We should have a 100 reasons to hate the Anaheim Ducks thread I can think of a big handful right now.
This game was just plain ridiculous. I thought the no call on Kunitz and the call on Samuelsson was one of the worst calls I’d seen in a long time……I stand corrected. Giguere did a good job “bumping” (if you could even call it that) Holmstrom.
I feel kind of sick to my stomach…. it reminded me of last year’s playoffs.
Agreed. I’m not a happy camper either about the past 3 games. But, if there’s any consolation, this kind of adversity should help the team and coaching staff devise new strategies to overcome teams like Anaheim. Anaheim is big, they’re aggressive, and they’re mobile. I noticed their forwards did a pretty good job keeping the WINGS bottled up (especially in the WINGS’ own end).
Time will tell. I think the sooner we put this one behind us, the better. Still lots of time to get it together.
skyguy52February 10, 2008 11:19 AM
Watching the replay of the no-goal… Giguere was screened (obviously). Holmstrom blocked his stick but that stick didn’t start to move until after the puck was in the net.
As much as I want to say the refs cost the Wings this one (and it would be easy to between the Schneider goal that never should have happened and the no-goal at the end), it wouldn’t have mattered if the Wings had done anything on their second through fifth power play chances.
That said, that last one will be archived for if/when I start HolmstromCreaseWatch.com.
Clark RasmussenFebruary 10, 2008 11:46 AM
My thoughts:
1. That Schneider goal was garbage
2. If it would have been any other person other than Homer that goal would have counted. The refs are out to get him and I don’t care what anybody says.
The Wings look to rebound from their OT loss to the Maple Leafs yesterday as they host the Anaheim Ducks today.
Detroit’s lineup is incomplete with Dan Cleary out until the playoffs but the Ducks’ lineup is finally togther with
the team’s cap-skirtingTeemu Selanne’s retirement over.Osgood gets the start for the Red Wings, Giguere goes for Anaheim.
Schneider knocks Holmstrom down in the crease with Homer chasing the puck and an open net. No call. Gonna be one of those games.
Please, Lord, don’t let Bertuzzi or Schnieder score.
If we’re asking the lord for things, go bigger, go for none of them to score and they all suffer minor injuries that will keep them out until next October.
Ducks are the most penalized team in the league and yet it’s Zetterberg going off first for a weak, weak hook.
Any word yet on how long we’re without Cleary???
Nick Lidstrom, power play goal! Suck on that, Scott Niedermayer.
Eight weeks.
A blast by Lidstrom with lots of Wings and sticks going to the net.
Love it.
Yikes. And a broken jaw of all things. That must have hurt too. Never had one, but he must have had some pain killers.
Heard Babcock mention, he expects someone to step up & fill the void.
f*cking hell.
Carter.. They all count, but I must say that was a piece-o-crap.
Cleary having such a good year … and he’s probably out for the remaining regular season.
(Except for Schneider, he’s ok On my watch…)
Oh well. I would just like to thank the lord this isn’t a sorry excuse for a game like yesterday! >:| That was horrid. And they’re not getting beaten, yay!
OK, sorry, How could I forget you are a Schneider fan. Well, how about if he scores, but its called back because it wasn’t legal..?? haha
So McGueire is praising the Ducks being physical by using the example of Giguere knocking down Franzen in front of the net. Which is a penalty that went uncalled. Physical or lucky? No one would be praising them if the refs would call it.
Hudler due to for a goal or point.
Late cross-check by Pronger, not called. Punch by Kunitz not called. Bullsh*t.
Can we have that called back??
And the Ducks score on what should have been a Detroit power play. f*ck you, refs.
In your faces. Now let’s have Dr. Fil and Pavel Datsyuk score & call it even!
The Ducks are still very happy with the officials? No sh*t, McGuire! f*ck you, refs.
Send Downey out to cross-check as many people as possible in the jaw. Start with Pronger and Giguere.
I like this idea! They’ve gotten away with some stuff, as usual. It’s stupid. How can the reffs be so blind?
They’re not blind, they saw Samuelsson. They *chose* not to call Kunitz. Because physical is expected from Anaheim but how dare those weak Swedes in Detroit try it.
DUCKS seem to be handling the WINGS with ease.
I have to say, that had to have been one of the worst no-calls I’ve seen in a long time… It’s not often you hear NBC announcers (who lately seem to be anti-redwings, even though they’re “neutral”) call out the refs on a no-call that hurt the redwings.
Wow.
Getzlaf throws a shot at Drake after the hit on Kunitz ’cause Kunitz is too much of a bitch to take care of himself.
Ooh! I remember what I had to say now.
Did anyone catch that Mike Babcock said it was ‘at least it’s entertaining’ when they interviewed him earlier? Maybe he gave them some smelling salts before the game started.
Meech’s stick held by Rob Niedermayer. No call.
You’re kidding me.
My thought also. D: Wow
That shouldn’t have happened.
Downey shouldn’t be going with their pornstached fighter, he should have gone after one of their stars.
WINGS standing still on that one. Especially Rafalski. Ducks rushing the net almost untouched.
Draper with a scoring opportunity just prior, shoots wide. When is Draper going to learn how to put his shots on net?
This game is getting away from the WINGS and quickly.
Milbury praises the Ducks for being able to get away with so much. Again, if the refs are doing their jobs, that’s nothing to praise.
Didn’t hear that. In what context was Babs talking? Was he referring to the REFS’ non-calls ??
Way to draw the call, Zata.
Hmmm, that brings the names to my head of Pronger and Cleary Anyone else remember that fun time?
Yay! Power play!
No, the fast pace of it, I think. If I remember right
End of 2:
Shots on Goal:
Wings 23 ——————– Ducks 16
Score:
Ducks 3 ——————— Wings 1
PHISSS pooor
Anyone else thinking the WINGS goal tending is deficient?
MY opinion:
Neither DOM or OZZIE are getting done …. haven’t been for the last 10-12 games.
So that eight game winning streak was done even with bad goaltending?
Nah, last couple games haven’t been great but no reason to worry.
The last couple games hasn’t been as great as they have been all season, I’ll give you that. But it’s one of those “This too shall pass” situations.
The announcers were just talking about how we need to figure out our goaltending situation because niether is good enough.
I say look at the numbers and shut up. What other team can say that they have both goalies with the best GAA in the league 1,2?
There’s not much of a base for that argument. Understandably, sometime stats lie, but they can’t be THAT far away from the truth.
Not sure I agree with the goalie interference call. I’d hate to see it the other way. That said, Randy Carlyle can f*ck himself if he wants to complain about it.
Way to go Franzen!
Nice pass by Hudler to Franzen who finishes!
Yay! Franzen’s keeping us in the game!!
I say alot of the credit for the low GAA is the puck possession style of of the WINGS offense.
I’m not impressed yet with either goalie. I’ve never been a big fan of Ozzie. I’ve felt alot of his stats are due to the guys he has up front.
Sorry to disagree, but I’m just not able to give the WINGS goalies credit.
Giguere Just kept the score from being tied.
He seems to have his best games against the WINGS.
I say it had less to do with the net minding than the puck possession, and checking lines up front.
I just noticed they haven’t said much about Pronger today. Let’s keep it that way. Too bad Gigeure and his barely legal pads keep making saves.
(These commentators are annoying.)
In that win streak there were two shutouts and two games where the Wings held their opponents to a single goal. What more do you want from the goalies?
Similarly, the Wings’ puck-possession style can make their goalies’ stats look worse. You allow one goal, you get a good GAA, but if it’s only on a handful of shots your save percentage is crap.
You’re right. I’m thinking Giguere has made the difference. He’s a monster in net, and then add to that all the padding he uses for God’s sake.
You are f*cking kidding me.
Lidstrom has earned a place on the good players list
I never saw him as spectacular last year, maybe I was blind. But he’s just playing better lately.
edit;; They….called it off, huh? That’s fcking great. How stupid.
True there were a few low scoring games in that streak. The WINGS also had to come back from deficits late in games to get the W. I’m still not convinced that the net minding has been the difference.
Anyone else see Pronger (and what it seemed like he was trying to do) ripping off Zetterbug’s face? It look like he was strangling him. x] RIDICULOUS. Simply ridiculous.
I say we all go against the referees, they obviously are biased against some teams.
Edit;; We should have a 100 reasons to hate the Anaheim Ducks thread I can think of a big handful right now.
Edit 2;; More ideas! Better yet, we get Gigeure mad at Schneider and Schneider can throw a drink at him (like the whole Roy thing) and get them both traded! Genius!
This game was just plain ridiculous. I thought the no call on Kunitz and the call on Samuelsson was one of the worst calls I’d seen in a long time……I stand corrected. Giguere did a good job “bumping” (if you could even call it that) Holmstrom.
I feel kind of sick to my stomach…. it reminded me of last year’s playoffs.
Agreed. I’m not a happy camper either about the past 3 games. But, if there’s any consolation, this kind of adversity should help the team and coaching staff devise new strategies to overcome teams like Anaheim. Anaheim is big, they’re aggressive, and they’re mobile. I noticed their forwards did a pretty good job keeping the WINGS bottled up (especially in the WINGS’ own end).
Time will tell. I think the sooner we put this one behind us, the better. Still lots of time to get it together.
Watching the replay of the no-goal… Giguere was screened (obviously). Holmstrom blocked his stick but that stick didn’t start to move until after the puck was in the net.
As much as I want to say the refs cost the Wings this one (and it would be easy to between the Schneider goal that never should have happened and the no-goal at the end), it wouldn’t have mattered if the Wings had done anything on their second through fifth power play chances.
That said, that last one will be archived for if/when I start HolmstromCreaseWatch.com.
My thoughts:
1. That Schneider goal was garbage
2. If it would have been any other person other than Homer that goal would have counted. The refs are out to get him and I don’t care what anybody says.
3. I hate Chris Pronger with a passion!